GPS-derived IWV Data Assimilation (nudging scheme) – in #8: General Questions

in #8: General Questions

<p> Dear colleagues </p> <p> I am attempting to perform Data Assimilation of <span class="caps"> GPS </span> -derived <span class="caps"> IWV </span> in the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> model (v. 5.01). So far I am working in the production of the netCDF files that have the right format to be assimilated by the model. <br/> I would like to have some advice about the following points. </p> <p> - In the description of the format of the input files for assimilating <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data, a list of optional and mandatory variables is given. Among the ones needed for assimilating <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data there are three, which I lack of, these are: Pressure ( <span class="caps"> MPPP </span> ), Temperature ( <span class="caps"> MTN </span> ) and Relative Humidity ( <span class="caps"> MUUU </span> ). My question is, could the values of these three needed quantities directly extracted from the simulated fields of the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> model? in other words, can I use simulated values of Pressure, temperature and Rel. Hummidity instead of observational data while assimilating data?, if so, how should I set the model in order to do that? </p> <p> - In the Part <span class="caps"> III </span> of the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> documentation (Data Assimilation) it is described that the model requires in some cases the <span class="caps"> IWV </span> to be assimilated in in other it needs the Zenith total Delay ( <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> ). The explanation is that the model can, itself, calculate the values of <span class="caps"> IWV </span> , in those cases where the values are missing, or easily assimilate thos introduced via the input files. Given that, in the description of format of the input files, found in the User guide both variables ( <acronym title="NWLN"> <span class="caps"> IWV </span> </acronym> and <acronym title="NADES"> <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> </acronym> ) are identified as ‘needed’ is there any way I can only input <span class="caps"> IWV </span> data, without having to introduce as well the <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> values? </p> <p> - Finally it could come in handy having an example netCDF file (already finished) with the correct fields and the correct format used for <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data assimilation. Does somebody know where could I obtain one of these? </p> <p> Thank you for your time and cooperation </p> <p> Alberto </p>

  @albertocaldas-alvarez in #80080f4

<p> Dear colleagues </p> <p> I am attempting to perform Data Assimilation of <span class="caps"> GPS </span> -derived <span class="caps"> IWV </span> in the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> model (v. 5.01). So far I am working in the production of the netCDF files that have the right format to be assimilated by the model. <br/> I would like to have some advice about the following points. </p> <p> - In the description of the format of the input files for assimilating <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data, a list of optional and mandatory variables is given. Among the ones needed for assimilating <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data there are three, which I lack of, these are: Pressure ( <span class="caps"> MPPP </span> ), Temperature ( <span class="caps"> MTN </span> ) and Relative Humidity ( <span class="caps"> MUUU </span> ). My question is, could the values of these three needed quantities directly extracted from the simulated fields of the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> model? in other words, can I use simulated values of Pressure, temperature and Rel. Hummidity instead of observational data while assimilating data?, if so, how should I set the model in order to do that? </p> <p> - In the Part <span class="caps"> III </span> of the <span class="caps"> COSMO </span> documentation (Data Assimilation) it is described that the model requires in some cases the <span class="caps"> IWV </span> to be assimilated in in other it needs the Zenith total Delay ( <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> ). The explanation is that the model can, itself, calculate the values of <span class="caps"> IWV </span> , in those cases where the values are missing, or easily assimilate thos introduced via the input files. Given that, in the description of format of the input files, found in the User guide both variables ( <acronym title="NWLN"> <span class="caps"> IWV </span> </acronym> and <acronym title="NADES"> <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> </acronym> ) are identified as ‘needed’ is there any way I can only input <span class="caps"> IWV </span> data, without having to introduce as well the <span class="caps"> ZTD </span> values? </p> <p> - Finally it could come in handy having an example netCDF file (already finished) with the correct fields and the correct format used for <span class="caps"> GPS </span> data assimilation. Does somebody know where could I obtain one of these? </p> <p> Thank you for your time and cooperation </p> <p> Alberto </p>

GPS-derived IWV Data Assimilation (nudging scheme)

Dear colleagues

I am attempting to perform Data Assimilation of GPS -derived IWV in the COSMO model (v. 5.01). So far I am working in the production of the netCDF files that have the right format to be assimilated by the model.
I would like to have some advice about the following points.

- In the description of the format of the input files for assimilating GPS data, a list of optional and mandatory variables is given. Among the ones needed for assimilating GPS data there are three, which I lack of, these are: Pressure ( MPPP ), Temperature ( MTN ) and Relative Humidity ( MUUU ). My question is, could the values of these three needed quantities directly extracted from the simulated fields of the COSMO model? in other words, can I use simulated values of Pressure, temperature and Rel. Hummidity instead of observational data while assimilating data?, if so, how should I set the model in order to do that?

- In the Part III of the COSMO documentation (Data Assimilation) it is described that the model requires in some cases the IWV to be assimilated in in other it needs the Zenith total Delay ( ZTD ). The explanation is that the model can, itself, calculate the values of IWV , in those cases where the values are missing, or easily assimilate thos introduced via the input files. Given that, in the description of format of the input files, found in the User guide both variables ( IWV and ZTD ) are identified as ‘needed’ is there any way I can only input IWV data, without having to introduce as well the ZTD values?

- Finally it could come in handy having an example netCDF file (already finished) with the correct fields and the correct format used for GPS data assimilation. Does somebody know where could I obtain one of these?

Thank you for your time and cooperation

Alberto

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<p> Hello Alberto, <br/> this is not the correct forum for your question, because this is for the <span class="caps"> CLM </span> community and climate questions only. Your question is related to data assimilation and the <span class="caps"> NWP </span> part only. I will forward your question to my colleagues from the data assimilation group here at <span class="caps"> DWD </span> , who can hopefully help. </p> <p> Ciao <br/> Uli </p>

  @ulrichschättler in #2b4aa38

<p> Hello Alberto, <br/> this is not the correct forum for your question, because this is for the <span class="caps"> CLM </span> community and climate questions only. Your question is related to data assimilation and the <span class="caps"> NWP </span> part only. I will forward your question to my colleagues from the data assimilation group here at <span class="caps"> DWD </span> , who can hopefully help. </p> <p> Ciao <br/> Uli </p>

Hello Alberto,
this is not the correct forum for your question, because this is for the CLM community and climate questions only. Your question is related to data assimilation and the NWP part only. I will forward your question to my colleagues from the data assimilation group here at DWD , who can hopefully help.

Ciao
Uli

<p> Dear Dr. Schättler </p> <p> Thank you for forwarding the email. </p> <p> Regards </p> <p> Alberto </p>

  @albertocaldas-alvarez in #abc72e2

<p> Dear Dr. Schättler </p> <p> Thank you for forwarding the email. </p> <p> Regards </p> <p> Alberto </p>

Dear Dr. Schättler

Thank you for forwarding the email.

Regards

Alberto